"Design & Development: Magic Item Compendium"

Catharz · Post by **Catharz** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:08 am

That buckler deal is probably best for archers. Nobody needs protection from ranged attacks like a ranged attacker.

Brobdingnagian · Post by **Brobdingnagian** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:00 am

So, we've all agreed the Magic Item Compendium is, in fact, crap.

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Are we going to do anything about it, or what?

Draco_Argentum · Post by **Draco_Argentum** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:32 am

I plan to read the book of gears, does that count?

RandomCasualty · Post by **RandomCasualty** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:38 pm

Guest (Unregistered) at [unixtime wrote:1176656852[/unixtime]]White Raven Tactics specifically is a power that both changes your initiative and lets you act again in the same round if the new initiative is lower. As far as i can tell, it doesn't change, errata, update, or clarify the existing initiative rules.

So nice try, but changing your initiative order many times in a round won't give you extra actions. Even using White Raven tactics with the Magic Item Compendium enhancements won't get you more than one extra set of actions per round.

Why is that? As far as I can tell you simply get to act whenever your round happens to come up. So if you had some way of juggling your init around, then you should be able to act more than once if you did it right.

Though on a side note I tend to agree with this interpretation.

Frank wrote:
Either that or the enhancements don't do anything at all - because they only affect your initiative check and that only gets made once, and is checked before you are wielding or not wielding your dagger since you're out of combat.

Cielingcat · Post by **Cielingcat** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:49 pm

Brobdingnagian at [unixtime wrote:1176710455[/unixtime]]So, we've all agreed the Magic Item Compendium is, in fact, crap.

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Are we going to do anything about it, or what?

I have not bought it, and I do not plan to.

josephbt · Post by **josephbt** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:07 pm

That's why knowing your RPG book dealer is good stuff. I always read the book before (not)buying it. I recomend you all do the same. Just get friendly with the local RPG store.

Catharz · Post by **Catharz** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:10 am

Towards the end, the book all but says that stat boosters, natural AC, deflection AC, resistance saves, energy resistance, and armor bonuses should be part of the character rather than the equipment.

What it does say is that you should be able to add them to appropriately slotted items at no cost increase.

NineInchNall · Post by **NineInchNall** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:05 pm

What I want to know is how UMD works with runestaves. I'd imagine that it'd be under the "emulate class feature" clause, which would give our little Rogue infinite spells/day from a given runestaff.

Catharz · Post by **Catharz** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:31 pm

NineInchNall at [unixtime wrote:1177358722[/unixtime]]What I want to know is how UMD works with runestaves. I'd imagine that it'd be under the "emulate class feature" clause, which would give our little Rogue infinite spells/day from a given runestaff.

You mean 3/spell/staff?

AlphaNerd · Post by **AlphaNerd** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:54 pm

I have no idea how runestaves actually work, but presumably the argument goes "each time you emulate a class feature, it resets" or something like that. But I really have no idea.

I mean, can you pass a runestaff to someone else and have them use 3/day if you've already used yours?

NineInchNall · Post by **NineInchNall** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:26 pm

Ah, I didn't see the 3/day/spell limitation. That's cool, then. They're just less expensive staves for the standard Warlock to make.

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